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Episode 147 - Discernment: Finding Our Way, Part 2

Discernment is the process of gaining clarity on finding direction for the next step of our journey.

Show notes

Today’s podcast is part two of a discussion between Steve and Spiritual Director Martie McMane. Martie is a retired minister, artist, and spiritual director who used a collage process with Steve & Gwen to help them make some crucial life decisions during a period of repositioning. They continue the conversation today about how the collage process can work in each of our own lives

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Martie McMane

Rev. Martie McMane, MA, M.Div, is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ and was the Senior Minister of First Congregational Church in Boulder from 2000-2016.  As a certified Enneagram teacher for 25 years, Martie has reached well over 1,000 people with her in-depth knowledge of the Enneagram and how its understanding can be transformative for our lives. In retirement, she enjoys creating pastels and mixed media, using it as a way to express the connection with the Divine as witnessed in nature and what it means to be human.


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This is the Soul Collage that Steve did in the retreat with Marty.

 


MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 23:13 - A Gaelic Blessing: Meditation by John Rutter

  • Music Break at 39:50 - There will be Rest by Frank Ticheli - performed by Kantorei


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Episode 146 - Discernment: Finding Our Way, Part 1

Discernment is the process of gaining clarity on finding direction for the next step of our journey.

Show notes

Last year Steve and Gwen went through a period of repositioning: changes were on the horizon but any clarity about what to do next was clouded by the realization that they were not on the same page. They reached out to a trusted Spiritual Director for help and the result was what they called a “Discernment Retreat.”  They needed clarity. They needed discernment.

Today’s podcast is a discussion between Steve and the Spiritual Director they called on for help, Martie McMane. A retired minister, artist, and spiritual director, Martie used a collage process that helped Steve & Gwen in making those crucial, life decisions. Today they dive deep into the process.

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Martie McMane

Rev. Martie McMane, MA, M.Div, is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ and was the Senior Minister of First Congregational Church in Boulder from 2000-2016.  As a certified Enneagram teacher for 25 years, Martie has reached well over 1,000 people with her in-depth knowledge of the Enneagram and how its understanding can be transformative for our lives. In retirement, she enjoys creating pastels and mixed media, using it as a way to express the connection with the Divine as witnessed in nature and what it means to be human.


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This is the Soul Collage that Steve did in the retreat with Marty.

 


MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 33:22 & 36:32 - Waltz for the Broken Hearted Written and performed by Jeff Wahl.


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Episode 145 - Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Imagination

I am simply humbled at this stage in my career, to have the privilege to tell Walter’s story and to help amplify his amazingly relevant voice. Getting to know Walter has been a healing and restorative experience for me as a former pastor and a professor deeply committed to social justice when so much of the church and society has forgotten what the biblical text says about God’s care for the marginalized.
— Conrad L. Kanagy

Show notes

Steve’s chats with Conrad Kanagy, the author of coming soon book Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Imagination: A Theological Biography. (releases Oct 24, 2023) Steve and Conrad focus on the book and how it reveals the most complete portrait to date of this remarkable prophet, pastor, preacher, teacher, and friend.

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Conrad L. Kanagy

Conrad L. Kanagy is professor of sociology at Elizabethtown College, Pennsylvania. He holds an undergraduate degree from Wheaton College (Illinois) and a PhD from Penn State. He is the author of eight books and numerous scholarly articles. His primary area of expertise is American and global Christianity. He hosts the podcast A Church Dismantled--A Kingdom Restored.

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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 33:00 - The Feast of St Augustine

  • Music Break at 47:28 - Kyrie Eleison with Audrey Snyder

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Episode 144 - 'Kindavangelical' with guest Pete Briscoe

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I came to the conclusion that I could not stay in that role and be healthy. So I chose to be a healthy person over a megachurch pastor, and it was an incredibly hard choice.
— Pete Briscoe

Show notes

In today’s conversation, Steve talks with Pete Briscoe about why Pete no longer calls himself an “evangelical.”

You’ll hear Pete’s story, filled with pain and struggles, as he discovers more beautiful ways to live the Christian life. While you may not agree with his path, we think there’s something here to learn in his story.

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Pete Briscoe

After leading Bent Tree Bible Fellowship church for nearly three decades and preaching for Telling the Truth ministry for more than a decade, God led Pete to a new season of life.

With his wife Libby, they sold their home, donated most of their stuff, and bought an RV. They drove west into the sunset, took a couple of months to catch their breath, and then started to work from the road.

Pete now coaches pastors and business owners/leaders in communications and self-care. He is also the host of the podcast Kindavangelical, a podcast for folks who have spent time in the evangelical culture but it isn’t working for them anymore.

Learn more about Pete on his website: www.petebriscoe.org

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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 31:40 - Gratitude by Scott Lamlein.

  • Music Break at 56:05 - Luminous Night of the Soul by Ola Gjeilo. Performed by Central Washington University Chamber Choir.

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Episode 134 - A year of Slowing Down

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Many of us seemed hard wired to do, do, and do more. Changing this requires a long, slow rewiring of our minds at the cellular level.

It is not acquired by reading quotes, attending conferences or transferring an addiction of accomplishing more and more to the spiritual life.

Steve talks with author Alan Fadling about his beautiful book, A Year of Slowing Down: Daily Devotions for Unhurried Living

A year of slowing. I like it and you will also!

Today’s Guest - Alan Fadling

Alan is a founding partner of Unhurried Living, Inc, a non-profit that trains people to rest deeper, live fuller and lead better. Alan is a trained spiritual director and leadership consultant, and the author of the award-winning books An Unhurried Life and An Unhurried Leader, which was honored with a Christianity Today Award of Merit in spirituality. He is also coauthor (with Gem Fadling) of What Does Your Soul Love?

  • Learn more about Alan & his books, podcast, coaching, and Unhurried Living on his website - www.unhurriedliving.com


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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 33:23: Sanctus (De Angelis) - Juliano Ravanello

  • Music Break at 50:21: Heavenly Violin - Beautiful Relaxing Violin Music


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Episode 127- Friendships: Experiencing Others on the Journey

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Welcome to Season 9 of the Soul Care Conversations Podcast!

We are beginning Season 9 with a 3-part series on Friendship, and today will be a reading from a book that Steve contributed to, The Transformation of a Man’s Heart. The Chapter is written by David G. Benner and is titled “Friendships: Experiencing Others on the Journey.”

This chapter has such depth and wisdom on the importance of friendship in our lives. Take some time as you listen - take notes, contemplate the friendships in your life, and meditate on the scriptures that are mentioned. It will give you a new perspective on the soul friends in your life.

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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 52:15: Anam Cara, performed & written by Caitlin Grey

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Episode 126- Courage for Caregivers with Marjorie Thompson

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SHOW NOTES

On our final podcast for this season, Steve has a remarkable and soulful conversation with author, teacher, and leader Majorie Thompson. They discuss her long friendship with Henri Nouwen and her roles as an author, spiritual director, publisher, and eventual care giver to her own mother and mother in law, which shifted her role and required sacrifices and humility. It’s a beautiful conversation and we look forward to you joining us for it!

About Our Guest

Marjorie J. Thompson is an ordained minister of the Presbyterian Church USA. She received her Bachelor of Arts in religious studies from Swarthmore College, and her Master of Divinity degree from McCormick Theological Seminary. Following a post-graduate pastoral internship, she became a Research Fellow at Yale Divinity School where she studied Christian spirituality with Henri Nouwen and did independent research in ecumenical traditions of prayer.

She has served as director of the Pathways Center for Spiritual Leadership and as spiritual director to Companions in Christ, a program outgrowth of the Pathways initiative of The Upper Room.

She is the author of Family, The Forming Center and Soul Feast: An Invitation to the Christian Spiritual Life.. She is a widely sought retreat leader, teacher, and speaker in the area of Christian spirituality. She and her husband John live in Kingston Springs, Tennessee.

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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 34:52: Cathedral of the Pines by Tim Janus

  • Music Break at 1:09:07: Be Thou My VIsion - Nathan Pacheco

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SUMMER 2022 Replays: Episode 48 - The Hidden Life

SUMMER 2022 Replays: Episode 48 - The Hidden Life

“Meanwhile, be content with obscurity, just as Christ was.” Colossians 3:4 (MSG)

Isolation - something most of us are experiencing right now.

Today's podcast is about unwanted isolation - the type God uses to accomplish what only living in obscurity can do and how God uses obscurity to shape and mold us for greater things; things that we are not always aware of.

Episode 117 - Original Blessing with Danielle Shroyer

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SHOW NOTES

Before there was "original sin" there was original blessing! This is a conversation that may challenge much of what you have believed and help you reframe what the Bible actually says.

This is a deep and rich conversation about our true identity as men and women. We talk about reclaiming our blessing and birthright that some theology have taken from us. We talk about parenting with blessing, marriage and blessing, and troubled / broken friendships and blessing.

This will be our final episode for Season 7! We are taking a break this summer, but will be back in the fall. Wishing you all a lovely summer of rest and respite.

Special Guest Danielle Shroyer

Danielle Shroyer spent over a decade in pastoral leadership and was a founding member of the emerging church movement. She speaks often across the country on issues of theology, faith, culture, and story, and blogs at www.danielleshroyer.com. A graduate of Baylor University and Princeton Theological Seminary, Danielle is the author of Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful Place; Where Jesus Prayed: Illuminations on the Lords Prayer in the Holy Land; and The Boundary Breaking God: An Unfolding Story of Hope and Promise.

Danielle Shroyer
 

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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 26:24: Letter From Home - Artist unknown.

  • Music Break at 53:02: Medie noctis tempus est - Composed by John Tavener - Performed by Anonymous 4.



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Episode 116 - Aging: A Lifelong Transition with Alice Fryling

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Grow old with me, the best is yet to be.
— Robert Browning

Today is our third, and final episode in a series called Managing Transitions. And if you've been listening over the course of the last couple of weeks you've heard a lot about the terms of our own internal shifting amid transitions. Change is inevitable, but transitions is really our internal work to the external change that we've been going through. Today we're going to be talking about aging with special guest Alice Fryling.

Alice is the author of Aging Faithfully: The Holy Invitation of Growing Older, a beautiful book that addresses aging: how we all age differently and how God calls each of us to new spiritual birth as we mature. Whether you are approaching the beginning, middle, or end of your senior years, you are invited to today’s conversation.

Special Guest Alice Fryling

Alice Fryling

Alice Fryling is a spiritual director and a bestselling author of ten books on relationships and spiritual formation, including her new book Aging Faithfully: The Holy Invitation of Growing Older. Alice received training in Spiritual Direction from the Christos Center in Minneapolis, and training in the Enneagram at Loyola University. She has been leading Enneagram workshops for thirty years, teaching participants how to use the Enneagram to know God and themselves more deeply.

She is also certified to teach the Myers Briggs Temperament Inventory. She and her husband, Bob, have two married daughters and four grandchildren. They live in Monument, Colorado.

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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 29:04: Joie De Vivre by Frederic Chopin - Performed by George Davidson.

  • Music Break at 50:49: Down to the River to Pray - Attributed to George H. Allan in the Slave Songbook of 1867 - Performed by The Apex Singers.



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Episode 115 - Managing Transitions, Part 2 with Steve

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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens...
— Ecclesiastes 3

We are on the second part of our series on Transitions, and Steve will be talking to us about the many ways we change and transition. Using personal examples and sharing from his heart, this is a podcast to not miss!

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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 53:48: Turn, Turn, Turn by Pete Seeger - Performed by Ilse DeLange.



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Episode 114 - Managing Transitions, Part 1 - The Leader's Transitions

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It’s been said that the only constant in life is change. While that’s true, it’s not always reassuring.

Change, as William Bridges explains it, is “situational: the move to a new site, the retirement of the founder, the reorganization of the roles on a team.” It can be the end of a relationship, the death of a parent, the move of your best friend. Any change brings with it a gap, some-thing called a transition. These in-between times are hard, even in the best of circumstances, because they represent moving from one phase of life to another.

Today we begin a new series on Managing Transitions with Joe Chambers reading from Steve’s book Inside Job, The Leaders Transitions: Understanding Change (Chapter 9).

Thank you for joining us in this conversation!

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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • Music Break at 42:12: Sing Joyfully by William Byrd (c.1540 - 1623) - set from Psalm 81. Performed by The King’s Singers.


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Episode 112 - Change for Health!

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The only foundation for lasting change is love.
— 30 Days with the Potter Devotional by Stephen W. Smith

The podcast this week is with a man who lost 140 pounds and reclaimed his health. It’s an incredible story of change with Paul Matthies - you’ll want to listen because it’s just so encouraging!

Change is what the Gospel of Jesus is all about. We change or we die. We can live like never before or we will be the living dead!

About Paul Matthies

 
 

Paul is all about living LIFE -- love, integrity, faith, and empowerment. He likes acronyms too.

A graduate of Hardin-Simmons University, Paul has served as an elder at Hilltop Christian Fellowship, served as a pastor at The Village Church in Dallas, TX, and as a missionary to Asia. He now works in the business world, primarily in Administration Management.

Paul has completed 3 Life Time 60 day programs and earned 5 martial arts belts, and was named a Grand Prize Winner of the Fall 2019 National Life Time Fitness 60 Day Challenge. (Selected out of 20,000 participants!)

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  • 30 Days with the Potter Devotional

  • Blackbelt Training

  • Cane Fu (self defense and exercise system for seniors and those who need to use a cane in their daily lives).

  • Philippians 2:12 (NIV): Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,

  • Deuteronomy 30:19 (NIV): This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • First Music Break at 21:49: 3 Bagatelles Op. 1 (2005) by Valentin Silvestrov. Performed by Peter Bannister - piano.

  • Second Music Break at 45:18: My Shepherd Will Supply My Need, performed by Anonymous 4. From American Angel - songs of redemption, hope and glory. (LYRICS)

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Episode 107 - Digital Kindness, Grace, & Advocacy with Lauren Hug

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Our world needs kindness right now. Social media is flooded with anger, frustration, fear, despair, and negativity. Technology allows us to interact instantly, but people feel ignored, unheard, misunderstood, discouraged, alone. What if we choose to change that? What if we use digital media to connect, build relationships, and better understand our fellow human beings?
— Lauren Hug

I think most of us can agree that digital media can be an overwhelming space. So many different opinions, yet very little respect or kindness is shown to one another. How do we move past the negative and practice kindness on digital media?

Pam is our host this week and will be talking with Lauren Hug, a lawyer & mediator who now works as a community engagement strategist. Her background as a lawyer gives her a unique perspective on how we can develop community in our online worlds by practicing kindness, grace, and advocacy.

About Lauren Hug

 
 

An accomplished speaker, author, and strategist, Lauren Hug has helped people reach and motivate markets and audiences for 20 years. In 2012 she founded HugSpeak, a community engagement firm that develops participatory communication strategies, empowering vibrant communities in both digital and physical spaces. Her academic credentials include an LL.M. with merit from the University of London, a J.D. with honors from the University of Texas School of Law, and a Bachelor of Journalism and Bachelor of Arts in Spanish from the University of Texas. She is the author of Digital Kindness: Being Human in a Hyper-Connected World, The Professional Woman’s Guide to Getting Promoted  and The Manager’s Guide to Presentations.

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MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

  • First Music Break at 18:43 – Fulfill by Heath Cantu – from Epidemic Sound

  • Second Music Break at 43:47: There is a Light by Stonekeepers – Epidemic Sound

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Episode 90 - A Soul Care Experience

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How do you “do” the invisible work of caring for your soul?

The Soul Care Institute was created to do just that -to help you discover what your soul has been longing for.

Kaylene Derksen, the President of the Soul Care Institute (and previous co-host for the podcast!) joins today’s podcast and chats with 3 students who are in the middle of their own journeys. Listen as they describe how they made the decision to join the Soul Care Institute and what they are learning through their journey.

Once you have listened to the podcast, go visit SoulCareInstitute.com to learn more about the Institute and to sign up for Cohort 10!

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  • Soul Care Institute

  • Jeremiah 6:16 (MSG) - and you will find rest for your soul.”

  • Lectio Divina

  • Competitive Edge International

  • Retreat Locations

  • Above All Else (the previous retreat for Potter’s Inn, run by new owners)

  • Music in podcast: Sweet Hour of Prayer sung by Sounds Like Reign

    Sweet hour of prayer
    Sweet hour of prayer
    That calls me from a world of care
    And bids me at my Father's throne
    Make all my wants and wishes known
    In seasons of distress and grief
    My soul has often found relief
    And oft escaped the tempter's snare
    By Thy return, sweet hour of prayer

    Sweet hour of prayer
    Sweet hour of prayer
    The joys I feel, the bliss I share
    Of those whose anxious spirits burn
    With strong desires for Thy return
    With such I hasten to the place
    Where God my Savior shows His face
    And gladly take my station there
    And wait for Thee, sweet hour of prayer

    Sweet hour of prayer
    Sweet hour of prayer
    And wait for Thee
    Sweet hour of prayer

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Episode 89 - Exposing the Soul of the Pastor!

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The Soul Care Conversation in this episode is "Exposing the Soul of the Pastor!"  We live in a day of tension, frustration, and alienation - and no people group faces the brunt of the discord we navigate more than pastors of the local church.

We've gathered four pastors to have a candid conversation, which will be a portal for us to listen and understand the soul of the pastor in today's environment.

A pastor told me recently that "Pastoring today is like pastoring the United States which is now the fragmented states. We have the Anti-maskers, Pro-Maskers; the Anti this and the Pro that every time we meet. We have Blue people and Red People and every one matters people and I don't give a rip people.”

Imagine what this tension does inside the soul of the pastor! 

Please help us by sharing this podcast with anyone you know who works in and for the local church. Perhaps this Podcast will help a pastor, somewhere, feel not so alone and or alienated. Perhaps these words and voices might give voice to their own inner rumblings.

It's honest and raw - it's clarifying and helpful. 

Take a listen. Pass it around!

Every blessing,

Stephen W. Smith

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Joe Chambers is today’s host and the pastor of Mountain Heights Baptist Church in Buena Vista, CO. He studied at Oklahoma Baptist University, completed a two-year certification program in Soul Care from the Potter’s Inn Soul Care Institute and Fuller Seminary. Currently an apprentice with Anam Cara in Spiritual Direction. Living with his wife Lynette at the base of Mt. Princeton, Joe is an avid reader and writer, loves to tell stories and spend time in the wilderness.

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Zach Bearss is the lead pastor of Clearview Community Church in Buena Vista, Colorado. He is married to Catherine and they have four children: Anna, Isaac, Noah and Joe. Pastor Zach has a passion to lead people into a transforming relationship with Jesus and authentic community with one another so that the light of the gospel can shine through their lives to the world.  

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Jason Tippetts is married to Sarah and they live in Buena Vista, Colorado where they try to figure out how to have time together weekly as they raise 5 kids and two dogs. Jason is ordained in the PCA and is planting his second church in Colorado. Favorite hobbies are trying to decide with his wife what we feed the kids for dinner, looking for a quiet place to read in our house, and watching his weather app. Sometimes all at one time. 

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Leslie Quilico is a daughter of God, wife to Steve, mother to three, & pastor & friend to many. She is a passionate learner who loves coffee, books, walks, & conversation. Her favorite conversations are with Jesus, & her biggest hope is to be a part of God's kingdom coming to earth on the daily.


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Episode 88 - The Post-Pandemic Church

SHOW NOTES What will church look like and be like in the post pandemic era? We discuss pastors inner worlds and implications for the new wine that is coming! A stirring, provocative conversation which will rattle and stretch us from these two seasoned veterans who work in the subterranean world of helping church leaders!

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What will church look like and be like in the post pandemic era? We discuss pastors inner worlds and implications for the new wine that is coming!

A stirring, provocative conversation which will rattle and stretch us from these two seasoned veterans who work in the subterranean world of helping church leaders!

Meet Special Guest Dr. Chuck DeGroat

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Chuck is Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary Holland MI, and Co-Founder and a Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is a licensed therapist, author, retreat leader, and spiritual director. Chuck has been married to Sara for 25 years, and has two daughters.

Chuck  has spent the last 20+ years in a dynamic combination of pastoral ministry, seminary teaching, and clinical counseling.  His books are practical and pastoral, meeting readers at the intersection of our spiritual journeys and the very real struggles we experience.

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Episode 87 - The Trap of Money, Sex, and Power - Part 2

"No issues touch us more profoundly or more universally. No themes are more inseparably intertwined. No topics caused more controversy. No human realities have greater power to bless or to curse. No three things have been sought after or more in need of a Christian response: money, sex, and power.

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No issues touch us more profoundly or more universally. No themes are more inseparably intertwined. No topics caused more controversy. No human realities have greater power to bless or to curse. No three things have been sought after or more in need of a Christian response: money, sex, and power.
— Richard Foster, from Challenge of the Disciplined Life: Money, Sex, and Power

We are continuing the conversation today with Steve and Special guest Hayne Steen - “The Trap of Money, Sex, and Power, Part 2”

Meet Special Guest Hayne Steen, MAMFT, LMHC

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Hayne grew up on the north Florida coast and met his wife at Flagler College in St. Augustine, Florida where they were both students and Young Life leaders. Since 1992 they have been serving together in full time ministry with Young Life and the local church all over the southeast.

Hayne worked in private practice as a Marriage and Family Therapist for six years while co-directing The SoulCare Project, serving as the Director of Counseling and Care. In 2017, he started his own practice, Elbow Tree Christian Counseling, LLC.

Hayne is a Flagler Alumnus (‘95) and did his graduate work at Richmont Graduate University (‘11). He lives in Saint Augustine, FL with his wife, three children, and one grandchild.

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  • Proverbs 11:14 (NIV)

  • Proverbs 12:15 (NIV)

  • Proverbs 15:22 (NIV)

  • Family of Origin exercise - 6 questions:

    • What were the negative characteristics that you experienced in your caregiver (In the growing up years when you were just being formed)? Whether that was a mom, dad, or a grandparent that was charged with your care.

    • What were the positive characteristics that you experienced in that caregiver?

    • What were the unmet needs that went unmet. Like, what were the needs that you had, like physical, emotional, spiritual, that just did not get met?

    • What were the words that never were said, that needed to have been said over you that you long to hear?

    • When we think back on positive experiences in your family: vacations weekends, special birthdays, holidays--positive experiences in the family, what were the warm emotions that you felt in that season?

    • When things were not going well in the family; when things were blowing up; when things were breaking down—How did you cope? Where would we find you? What did you do?

  • Challenge of the Disciplined Life: Money, Sex, and Power by Richard Foster 

  • READING: Excerpt from In the Name of Jesus by Henri Nouwen - [READ]

 

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