Episode 147 - Discernment: Finding Our Way, Part 2

“Discernment is the process of gaining clarity on finding direction for the next step of our journey.”

Show notes

Today’s podcast is part two of a discussion between Steve and Spiritual Director Martie McMane. Martie is a retired minister, artist, and spiritual director who used a collage process with Steve & Gwen to help them make some crucial life decisions during a period of repositioning. They continue the conversation today about how the collage process can work in each of our own lives

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Martie McMane

Rev. Martie McMane, MA, M.Div, is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ and was the Senior Minister of First Congregational Church in Boulder from 2000-2016.  As a certified Enneagram teacher for 25 years, Martie has reached well over 1,000 people with her in-depth knowledge of the Enneagram and how its understanding can be transformative for our lives. In retirement, she enjoys creating pastels and mixed media, using it as a way to express the connection with the Divine as witnessed in nature and what it means to be human.

• Martie’s Website

Mentioned in the Podcast

• SoulCollage Evolving: An Intuitive Collage Process for Self-Discovery and Community by Seena B. Frost

• Discernment: Reading the Signs of Daily Life by Henri Nouwen

• Merton’s Prayer: Finding God’s Will

This is the Soul Collage that Steve did in the retreat with Marty.

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 23:13 - A Gaelic Blessing: Meditation by John Rutter

• Music Break at 39:50 - There will be Rest by Frank Ticheli - performed by Kantorei

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Episode 146 - Discernment: Finding Our Way, Part 1

“Discernment is the process of gaining clarity on finding direction for the next step of our journey.”

Show notes

Last year Steve and Gwen went through a period of repositioning: changes were on the horizon but any clarity about what to do next was clouded by the realization that they were not on the same page. They reached out to a trusted Spiritual Director for help and the result was what they called a “Discernment Retreat.”  They needed clarity. They needed discernment.

Today’s podcast is a discussion between Steve and the Spiritual Director they called on for help, Martie McMane. A retired minister, artist, and spiritual director, Martie used a collage process that helped Steve & Gwen in making those crucial, life decisions. Today they dive deep into the process.

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Martie McMane

Rev. Martie McMane, MA, M.Div, is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ and was the Senior Minister of First Congregational Church in Boulder from 2000-2016.  As a certified Enneagram teacher for 25 years, Martie has reached well over 1,000 people with her in-depth knowledge of the Enneagram and how its understanding can be transformative for our lives. In retirement, she enjoys creating pastels and mixed media, using it as a way to express the connection with the Divine as witnessed in nature and what it means to be human.

• Martie’s Website

Mentioned in the Podcast

• SoulCollage Evolving: An Intuitive Collage Process for Self-Discovery and Community by Seena B. Frost

• Discernment: Reading the Signs of Daily Life by Henri Nouwen

• Merton’s Prayer: Finding God’s Will

This is the Soul Collage that Steve did in the retreat with Marty.

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 33:22 & 36:32 - Waltz for the Broken Hearted Written and performed by Jeff Wahl.

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Episode 145 - Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Imagination

“I am simply humbled at this stage in my career, to have the privilege to tell Walter’s story and to help amplify his amazingly relevant voice. Getting to know Walter has been a healing and restorative experience for me as a former pastor and a professor deeply committed to social justice when so much of the church and society has forgotten what the biblical text says about God’s care for the marginalized.”

— Conrad L. Kanagy

Show notes

Steve’s chats with Conrad Kanagy, the author of coming soon book Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Imagination: A Theological Biography. (releases Oct 24, 2023) Steve and Conrad focus on the book and how it reveals the most complete portrait to date of this remarkable prophet, pastor, preacher, teacher, and friend.

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Conrad L. Kanagy

Conrad L. Kanagy is professor of sociology at Elizabethtown College, Pennsylvania. He holds an undergraduate degree from Wheaton College (Illinois) and a PhD from Penn State. He is the author of eight books and numerous scholarly articles. His primary area of expertise is American and global Christianity. He hosts the podcast A Church Dismantled--A Kingdom Restored.

• Books by Conrad

Mentioned in the Podcast

• Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Imagination: A Theological Biography (Releases Oct 24, 2023)

• Conrad’s Podcast A Church Dismantled--A Kingdom Restored.

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 33:00 - The Feast of St Augustine

• Music Break at 47:28 - Kyrie Eleison with Audrey Snyder
  

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Episode 144 - 'Kindavangelical' with guest Pete Briscoe

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“I came to the conclusion that I could not stay in that role and be healthy. So I chose to be a healthy person over a megachurch pastor, and it was an incredibly hard choice.”

— Pete Briscoe

Show notes

In today’s conversation, Steve talks with Pete Briscoe about why Pete no longer calls himself an “evangelical.”

You’ll hear Pete’s story, filled with pain and struggles, as he discovers more beautiful ways to live the Christian life. While you may not agree with his path, we think there’s something here to learn in his story.

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Pete Briscoe

After leading Bent Tree Bible Fellowship church for nearly three decades and preaching for Telling the Truth ministry for more than a decade, God led Pete to a new season of life.

With his wife Libby, they sold their home, donated most of their stuff, and bought an RV. They drove west into the sunset, took a couple of months to catch their breath, and then started to work from the road.

Pete now coaches pastors and business owners/leaders in communications and self-care. He is also the host of the podcast Kindavangelical, a podcast for folks who have spent time in the evangelical culture but it isn’t working for them anymore.

Learn more about Pete on his website: www.petebriscoe.org

Mentioned in the Podcast

• Kindavangelical Podcast

• The Christian Journey

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 31:40 - Gratitude by Scott Lamlein.

• Music Break at 56:05 - Luminous Night of the Soul by Ola Gjeilo. Performed by Central Washington University Chamber Choir.
  

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Steve's List for Summer 2023: Nature and the Care of the Soul with Belden Lane, Part 2

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FROM STEVE: I consider Belden Lane to Be among the most important voices in the 21st century. For the next two weeks listen deeply to his wisdom and insight. I relish in his books and find him to be among the most authentic voices I've ever heard!

Special Guest Belden C. Lane

Belden and his dog Joey

Belden C. Lane is a Presbyterian theologian who teaches on a Jesuit faculty at Saint Louis University. His interests include the relationship between geography and faith, wilderness backpacking in the Ozarks, the magic of storytelling, desert spirituality, exposing students to urban poverty through the Catholic Worker community, and the poetry of Rumi. He also works with men, helping to lead initiation rites through Richard Rohr's program for Men as Learners and Elders in Albuquerque.

He lives with his wife Patricia, a spiritual director and retired school teacher, in Saint Louis. Drawn to sacred places around the world, his travels have involved camping in Egypt, Ireland and the Virgin Islands; hiking in Greece, Hawaii, and Australia; and study in England, Israel and Mexico. For six years I served in the pastorate, from a village parish in western New York State to the historic First Presbyterian Church of Philadelphia. Some time ago he found himself delightfully introduced as a Presbyterian minister teaching at a Roman Catholic university telling Jewish stories at the Vedanta Society.

• More about Belden

Belden’s Books:

• The Solace of Fierce Landscapes: Exploring Desert and Mountain Spirituality

• Ravished by Beauty: The Surprising Legacy of Reformed Spirituality

• Backpacking with the Saints: Wilderness Hiking as Spiritual Practice

• The Great Conversation: Nature and the Care of the Soul

Mentioned in podcast

• Apophatic and Cataphatic Tradition

• Walter Brueggemann on Psalms of Disorientation

• Richard Rohr’s Center for Action and Contemplation

• Illuman - Richard Rohr Ministry for Men

• Paula D’Arcy - Red Bird Foundation

• Paula D’Arcy’s book The Gift of the Red Bird

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Steve's List for Summer 2023: Nature and the Care of the Soul with Belden Lane, Part 1

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FROM STEVE: I consider Belden Lane to Be among the most important voices in the 21st century. For the next two weeks listen deeply to his wisdom and insight. I relish in his books and find him to be among the most authentic voices I've ever heard!

Special Guest Belden C. Lane

Belden and his dog Joey

Belden C. Lane is a Presbyterian theologian who teaches on a Jesuit faculty at Saint Louis University. His interests include the relationship between geography and faith, wilderness backpacking in the Ozarks, the magic of storytelling, desert spirituality, exposing students to urban poverty through the Catholic Worker community, and the poetry of Rumi. He also works with men, helping to lead initiation rites through Richard Rohr's program for Men as Learners and Elders in Albuquerque.

He lives with his wife Patricia, a spiritual director and retired school teacher, in Saint Louis. Drawn to sacred places around the world, his travels have involved camping in Egypt, Ireland and the Virgin Islands; hiking in Greece, Hawaii, and Australia; and study in England, Israel and Mexico. For six years I served in the pastorate, from a village parish in western New York State to the historic First Presbyterian Church of Philadelphia. Some time ago he found himself delightfully introduced as a Presbyterian minister teaching at a Roman Catholic university telling Jewish stories at the Vedanta Society.

More about Belden

Belden’s Books:

• The Solace of Fierce Landscapes: Exploring Desert and Mountain Spirituality

• Ravished by Beauty: The Surprising Legacy of Reformed Spirituality

• Backpacking with the Saints: Wilderness Hiking as Spiritual Practice

• The Great Conversation: Nature and the Care of the Soul

Mentioned in podcast

• Richard Rohr quote “from disorder to reorder to new order” - from his book The Wisdom Pattern: Order, Disorder, Reorder.

• Thomas Berry book on the Great Conversation - Befriending the Earth: A Theology of Reconciliation Between Humans and the Earth

• SNEAK PEAK: 30 Days with the Potter Devotional reading - Foundational Love of God (Text)

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Episode 130- Healthy Community: The Benefits of Friendship

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Aspen trees are a beautiful sight in the Western US. But did you know you will never find an aspen tree growing alone in a natural setting? Aspen trees grow in community. Their roots are intertwined under the ground, making a grove of trees into one big tree.

The story of Lazarus echoes the spiritual lesson of the aspen grove: we cannot grow alone. We were never meant to remain alone as we emerge from the tomb. As we learn from Lazarus, we see that our roots intertwine with others. Jesus calls us to embrace a “grove” of people and allow a community of friends to help us change.

Join us in this conversation on the importance of community in each of our lives.

Resources Mentioned in Podcast

The Lazarus Life: Spiritual Transformation for Ordinary People by Stephen W. Smith

• John 1:14

• Luke 10:34-35 MSG

• Romans 15:7

• John 11:43

• Philippians 2:1-4 MSG

• I Kings 6:24-33
  
  

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 42:45: Bring Us, O Lord God by William Harris - performed by VOCES8.

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Episode 129- The Way of Companionship

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Part 3 in our 3-part series on Friendship

How do we live with difficult people and how do we live when we’ve been hurt in a relationship? Today Joe Chambers is reading from Steve’s book “The Jesus Life” and it unpacks those very subjects. It’s Steve at his most raw, honest, and vulnerable.

Thank you for joining us for this challenging discussion!

Resources Mentioned in Podcast

• The Jesus Life: Eight Ways to Recover Authentic Christianity by Stephen W. Smith

• Luke 24:32 MSG

• Acts 17:27 MSG

• Luke 18:15-17 MSG

• Matt. 15:19-20 NIV

• John 2:23-25 NIV

• Psm. 133:1 NIV

• Romans 15:7 NIV

• John 2:24 NIV

• Mark 3:13 NIV

• Ps. 8:3-4 MSG

• Eph. 1:4 MSG

• John 15:15 MSG

• Mark 3:14 NIV

• Gen 2:18 NIV
  
  

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 44:51: What A Friend We Have In Jesus - Hymns Of Comfort from the Classic Worship Series. Performed by Eric Wyse & Paul Nelson

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Episode 128- Soul Companions

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SHOW NOTES

Part 2 in our Friendship Series

Today Joe Chambers joins us in reading from Steve’s Book “Soul Custody.” It’s a discussion about Soul Companions and how the four quadrants of the human heart offer us a picture of the four levels to friendship. Being made in the image of God--the Trinity--we are most fully ourselves when we live life together.

Thank you for joining us today!

Resources Mentioned in Podcast

• Soul Custody: Choosing to Care for the One and Only You by Stephen W. Smith

• Proverbs 27:19 TLB

• Ruth 1:16-17 MSG

• 2 Samuel 1:26 MSG

• Luke 24:32

• Exodus 3:3 KJV

• 1 Peter 1:22

• Mark 7:14-23 MSG

• 1 Cor. 13:4-7 MSG

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 52:05: Entreat Me Not To Leave You, performed by Atlanta Master Chorale
  

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Episode 127- Friendships: Experiencing Others on the Journey

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Welcome to Season 9 of the Soul Care Conversations Podcast!

We are beginning Season 9 with a 3-part series on Friendship, and today will be a reading from a book that Steve contributed to, The Transformation of a Man’s Heart. The Chapter is written by David G. Benner and is titled “Friendships: Experiencing Others on the Journey.”

This chapter has such depth and wisdom on the importance of friendship in our lives. Take some time as you listen - take notes, contemplate the friendships in your life, and meditate on the scriptures that are mentioned. It will give you a new perspective on the soul friends in your life.

Resources Mentioned in Podcast

• The Transformation of a Man’s Heart - Compiled and Edited by Stephen W. Smith

• List of Scriptures mentioned (PDF Document)

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 52:15: Anam Cara, performed & written by Caitlin Grey
  

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Episode 126- Courage for Caregivers with Marjorie Thompson

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On our final podcast for this season, Steve has a remarkable and soulful conversation with author, teacher, and leader Majorie Thompson. They discuss her long friendship with Henri Nouwen and her roles as an author, spiritual director, publisher, and eventual care giver to her own mother and mother in law, which shifted her role and required sacrifices and humility. It’s a beautiful conversation and we look forward to you joining us for it!

About Our Guest

Marjorie J. Thompson is an ordained minister of the Presbyterian Church USA. She received her Bachelor of Arts in religious studies from Swarthmore College, and her Master of Divinity degree from McCormick Theological Seminary. Following a post-graduate pastoral internship, she became a Research Fellow at Yale Divinity School where she studied Christian spirituality with Henri Nouwen and did independent research in ecumenical traditions of prayer.

She has served as director of the Pathways Center for Spiritual Leadership and as spiritual director to Companions in Christ, a program outgrowth of the Pathways initiative of The Upper Room.

She is the author of Family, The Forming Center and Soul Feast: An Invitation to the Christian Spiritual Life.. She is a widely sought retreat leader, teacher, and speaker in the area of Christian spirituality. She and her husband John live in Kingston Springs, Tennessee.

• Courage for Caregivers: Sustenance for the Journey in Company with Henri J. M. Nouwen by Marjorie Thompson

• All of Marjorie’s books

Resources Mentioned in Podcast

• Henri Nouwen Website

• A Spirituality of Caregiving by Henri Nouwen

• The Great Annual Examen - An Exercise to Look Back, Look Within, and Look Forward

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 34:52: Cathedral of the Pines by Tim Janus

• Music Break at 1:09:07: Be Thou My VIsion - Nathan Pacheco
  
  

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Episode 117 - Original Blessing with Danielle Shroyer

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Before there was "original sin" there was original blessing! This is a conversation that may challenge much of what you have believed and help you reframe what the Bible actually says.

This is a deep and rich conversation about our true identity as men and women. We talk about reclaiming our blessing and birthright that some theology have taken from us. We talk about parenting with blessing, marriage and blessing, and troubled / broken friendships and blessing.

This will be our final episode for Season 7! We are taking a break this summer, but will be back in the fall. Wishing you all a lovely summer of rest and respite.

Special Guest Danielle Shroyer

Danielle Shroyer spent over a decade in pastoral leadership and was a founding member of the emerging church movement. She speaks often across the country on issues of theology, faith, culture, and story, and blogs at www.danielleshroyer.com. A graduate of Baylor University and Princeton Theological Seminary, Danielle is the author of Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful Place; Where Jesus Prayed: Illuminations on the Lords Prayer in the Holy Land; and The Boundary Breaking God: An Unfolding Story of Hope and Promise.

• Website: DanielleShroyer.com

• More of Danielle’s Books

Mentioned in podcast

• Original Blessing: Putting Sin in Its Rightful Place by Danielle Shroyer

Contemplative Prayer ResourceS

• Audio of Danielle’s Prayer in podcast -DOWNLOAD

• Ascending the Mountain Within: Experiencing God Through Contemplative Prayer by Stephen W. & Gwen Smith

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 26:24: Letter From Home - Artist unknown.

• Music Break at 53:02: Medie noctis tempus est - Composed by John Tavener - Performed by Anonymous 4.

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Episode 116 - Aging: A Lifelong Transition with Alice Fryling

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“Grow old with me, the best is yet to be.”

— Robert Browning

Today is our third, and final episode in a series called Managing Transitions. And if you've been listening over the course of the last couple of weeks you've heard a lot about the terms of our own internal shifting amid transitions. Change is inevitable, but transitions is really our internal work to the external change that we've been going through. Today we're going to be talking about aging with special guest Alice Fryling.

Alice is the author of Aging Faithfully: The Holy Invitation of Growing Older, a beautiful book that addresses aging: how we all age differently and how God calls each of us to new spiritual birth as we mature. Whether you are approaching the beginning, middle, or end of your senior years, you are invited to today’s conversation.

Special Guest Alice Fryling

Alice Fryling is a spiritual director and a bestselling author of ten books on relationships and spiritual formation, including her new book Aging Faithfully: The Holy Invitation of Growing Older. Alice received training in Spiritual Direction from the Christos Center in Minneapolis, and training in the Enneagram at Loyola University. She has been leading Enneagram workshops for thirty years, teaching participants how to use the Enneagram to know God and themselves more deeply.

She is also certified to teach the Myers Briggs Temperament Inventory. She and her husband, Bob, have two married daughters and four grandchildren. They live in Monument, Colorado.

• Website: AliceFryling.com

• More of Alice’s Books

Mentioned in podcast

• Aging Faithfully: The Holy Invitation of Growing Older by Alice Fryling

• Luke 19:41-42 NLT, Mark 4:26-29 MSG, Isaiah 46, Matthew 25:1-30 MSG

• Lectio Divina

• Daily Examine

• Janet K. Ruffing RSM

• Chapter 9 from Inside Job Workbook Session - a way to work through this series and transitions - FREE DOWNLOAD

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 29:04: Joie De Vivre by Frederic Chopin - Performed by George Davidson.

• Music Break at 50:49: Down to the River to Pray - Attributed to George H. Allan in the Slave Songbook of 1867 - Performed by The Apex Singers.

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Episode 115 - Managing Transitions, Part 2 with Steve

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“There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens...”

— Ecclesiastes 3

We are on the second part of our series on Transitions, and Steve will be talking to us about the many ways we change and transition. Using personal examples and sharing from his heart, this is a podcast to not miss!

Mentioned in podcast

• Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 (NIV)

• Chapter 9 from Inside Job Workbook Session - a way to work through this series - FREE DOWNLOAD

• The Inside Job: Doing the Work Within the Work by Stephen W. Smith

• Managing Transition: Making the Most of Change by William and Susan Bridges

• The Critical Journey, Part 1 and The Critical Journey, Part 2 (Podcasts with Steve and Joe Chambers)

• To Re-position or to Retire by Stephen W. Smith (Blog Post)

• The State of My Soul Wheel

• SOLO: Creating Space with God by Stephen W. Smith and Peter M. Ivey

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• Music Break at 53:48: Turn, Turn, Turn by Pete Seeger - Performed by Ilse DeLange.

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Episode 114 - Managing Transitions, Part 1 - The Leader's Transitions

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It’s been said that the only constant in life is change. While that’s true, it’s not always reassuring.

Change, as William Bridges explains it, is “situational: the move to a new site, the retirement of the founder, the reorganization of the roles on a team.” It can be the end of a relationship, the death of a parent, the move of your best friend. Any change brings with it a gap, some-thing called a transition. These in-between times are hard, even in the best of circumstances, because they represent moving from one phase of life to another.

Today we begin a new series on Managing Transitions with Joe Chambers reading from Steve’s book Inside Job, The Leaders Transitions: Understanding Change (Chapter 9).

Thank you for joining us in this conversation!

Mentioned in podcast

• Chapter 9 from The Inside Job (Purchase for $1!)

• Chapter 9 Workbook Session - a Way to work through this series - FREE DOWNLOAD

• The Inside Job: Doing the Work Within the Word by Stephen W. Smith

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 42:12: Sing Joyfully by William Byrd (c.1540 - 1623) - set from Psalm 81. Performed by The King’s Singers.

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Episode 107 - Digital Kindness, Grace, & Advocacy with Lauren Hug

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“Our world needs kindness right now. Social media is flooded with anger, frustration, fear, despair, and negativity. Technology allows us to interact instantly, but people feel ignored, unheard, misunderstood, discouraged, alone. What if we choose to change that? What if we use digital media to connect, build relationships, and better understand our fellow human beings?”

— Lauren Hug

I think most of us can agree that digital media can be an overwhelming space. So many different opinions, yet very little respect or kindness is shown to one another. How do we move past the negative and practice kindness on digital media?

Pam is our host this week and will be talking with Lauren Hug, a lawyer & mediator who now works as a community engagement strategist. Her background as a lawyer gives her a unique perspective on how we can develop community in our online worlds by practicing kindness, grace, and advocacy.

About Lauren Hug

An accomplished speaker, author, and strategist, Lauren Hug has helped people reach and motivate markets and audiences for 20 years. In 2012 she founded HugSpeak, a community engagement firm that develops participatory communication strategies, empowering vibrant communities in both digital and physical spaces. Her academic credentials include an LL.M. with merit from the University of London, a J.D. with honors from the University of Texas School of Law, and a Bachelor of Journalism and Bachelor of Arts in Spanish from the University of Texas. She is the author of Digital Kindness: Being Human in a Hyper-Connected World, The Professional Woman’s Guide to Getting Promoted  and The Manager’s Guide to Presentations.

• Lauren’s Website

• Book: Digital Kindness: Being Human in a Hyper-Connected World

Mentioned in podcast

• Culinary Distancing COS (FB Group)

• Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander by Thomas Merton

• Factfulness by Hans Rosling

• Colossians 3:12-14 MSG

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• First Music Break at 18:43 – Fulfill by Heath Cantu – from Epidemic Sound

• Second Music Break at 43:47: There is a Light by Stonekeepers – Epidemic Sound
  

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Episode 98 - Eugene Peterson: Humble Servant - Part 2 with Winn Collier

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Today is Part 2 of Steve’s conversation with Winn Collier. They talk about The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, The Message, how Peterson navigated criticism, and more. You will want to pass this one along to your friends and family!

Special Guest Winn Collier

In addition to A Burning in My Bones, Winn Collier has authored four books (Restless Faith, Let God: The Transforming Wisdom of François Fénelon, Holy Curiosity, and Love Big, Be Well) and contributed to numerous other volumes. He has written for multiple periodicals including Christianity Today, Christian Century, Relevant, and the Washington Post.

A pastor for twenty-five years, Winn was the founding pastor of All Souls Charlottesville in Virginia. He now directs the Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary in Michigan. He holds a PhD from the University of Virginia, where he focused on the intersection of religion and literary fiction. Winn and his wife, Miska, a spiritual director, live in Holland, Michigan, with their two sons.

Winn’s Website

Winn’s books:

• A Burning in my Bones: An Authorized Biography of Eugene Peterson

• Love Big and Be Well

• Restless Faith: Hanging On To a God Just out of Reach

• Let God: Spiritual Conversations with François Fénelon

Mentioned in podcast

• A Burning in my Bones: An Authorized Biography of Eugene Peterson

• Eugene Peterson’s Books

• The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill

• Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard

• Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination

• The Message

• Let God: Spiritual Conversations with Francois Fenelon

• Moment to Breathe with Joe Chambers

  • Excerpt from In the Name of Jesus by Henri Nouwen.

  • Link to purchase In the Name of Jesus by Henri Nouwen

  • Henri Nouwen’s Books

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Episode 97 - A Burning in my Bones with Winn Collier, Part 1

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If you want to cut to the core of who I am, I’d say this: I’m husband to the beautiful and graceful Miska Tolleson Collier. Miska is a spiritual director and yoga teacher, a poet-mystic and the person I most respect in this world. I’m dad to Wyatt and Seth, the two who’ve pulled strands of love out of me that I didn’t know existed. I’m friend to a few misty-eyed men and a few courageous women. I prefer what’s slow over what’s efficient. I’m suspicious of anyone who’s cock-sure. I’m weary of all the bullhorns. I’m partial to things that are worn and a bit ragged. I think truth is best told slant. I believe in hope. — Winn Collier

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Winn Collier is a pastor & author whose most recent book is “A Burning in my Bones,” an authorized biography of Eugene Peterson. While Winn does delve into Eugene’s life and the book, this podcast is really about Winn Collier: who he is, where he came from, how he got to this point in his life, and the difficult times we are living in.

Listen in and hear the heart of this man of faith.

Winn & Eugene Peterson

Special Guest Winn Collier

In addition to A Burning in My Bones, Winn Collier has authored four books (Restless Faith, Let God: The Transforming Wisdom of François Fénelon, Holy Curiosity, and Love Big, Be Well) and contributed to numerous other volumes. He has written for multiple periodicals including Christianity Today, Christian Century, Relevant, and the Washington Post.

A pastor for twenty-five years, Winn was the founding pastor of All Souls Charlottesville in Virginia. He now directs the Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary in Michigan. He holds a PhD from the University of Virginia, where he focused on the intersection of religion and literary fiction. Winn and his wife, Miska, a spiritual director, live in Holland, Michigan, with their two sons.

Winn’s Website

Winn’s books mentioned:

• Restless Faith: Hanging On To a God Just out of Reach

• A Burning in my Bones: An Authorized Biography of Eugene Peterson

• Love Big and Be Well

• Let God: Spiritual Conversations with François Fénelon

Mentioned in podcast

• Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination

• Book of Lamentations

• Wendell Berry's Books

• Subversive Spirituality by Eugene Peterson

• Chuck DeGroat - Chuck has been a guest on our podcast twice

• The Message

• Moment to Breathe with Kaylene Derksen

  • What to Remember When Waking by David Whyte

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Episode 96 - Nature and the Care of the Soul with Belden Lane, Part 2

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This season is all about Complex Conversations and how these conversations can help us buffet the fierce winds that are blowing in our lives.

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We are continuing the conversation with Steve and Belden Lane today.

Belden and Steve discuss why lament is absolutely necessary for each of us, and how lament is the way out of our national meltdown, our constant state of living on the edge in a frazzled world.

It is stunning, sobering, and powerfully hope filled - don’t miss this conversation!

Special Guest Belden C. Lane

Belden and his dog Joey

Belden C. Lane is a Presbyterian theologian who teaches on a Jesuit faculty at Saint Louis University. His interests include the relationship between geography and faith, wilderness backpacking in the Ozarks, the magic of storytelling, desert spirituality, exposing students to urban poverty through the Catholic Worker community, and the poetry of Rumi. He also works with men, helping to lead initiation rites through Richard Rohr's program for Men as Learners and Elders in Albuquerque.

He lives with his wife Patricia, a spiritual director and retired school teacher, in Saint Louis. Drawn to sacred places around the world, his travels have involved camping in Egypt, Ireland and the Virgin Islands; hiking in Greece, Hawaii, and Australia; and study in England, Israel and Mexico. For six years I served in the pastorate, from a village parish in western New York State to the historic First Presbyterian Church of Philadelphia. Some time ago he found himself delightfully introduced as a Presbyterian minister teaching at a Roman Catholic university telling Jewish stories at the Vedanta Society.

More about Belden

Belden’s Books:

• The Solace of Fierce Landscapes: Exploring Desert and Mountain Spirituality

• Ravished by Beauty: The Surprising Legacy of Reformed Spirituality

• Backpacking with the Saints: Wilderness Hiking as Spiritual Practice

• The Great Conversation: Nature and the Care of the Soul

Mentioned in podcast

• Apophatic and Cataphatic Tradition

• Walter Brueggemann on Psalms of Disorientation

• Richard Rohr’s Center for Action and Contemplation

• Illuman - Richard Rohr Ministry for Men

• Paula D’Arcy - Red Bird Foundation

• Paula D’Arcy’s book The Gift of the Red Bird

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