Episode 147 - Discernment: Finding Our Way, Part 2

“Discernment is the process of gaining clarity on finding direction for the next step of our journey.”

Show notes

Today’s podcast is part two of a discussion between Steve and Spiritual Director Martie McMane. Martie is a retired minister, artist, and spiritual director who used a collage process with Steve & Gwen to help them make some crucial life decisions during a period of repositioning. They continue the conversation today about how the collage process can work in each of our own lives

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Martie McMane

Rev. Martie McMane, MA, M.Div, is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ and was the Senior Minister of First Congregational Church in Boulder from 2000-2016.  As a certified Enneagram teacher for 25 years, Martie has reached well over 1,000 people with her in-depth knowledge of the Enneagram and how its understanding can be transformative for our lives. In retirement, she enjoys creating pastels and mixed media, using it as a way to express the connection with the Divine as witnessed in nature and what it means to be human.

• Martie’s Website

Mentioned in the Podcast

• SoulCollage Evolving: An Intuitive Collage Process for Self-Discovery and Community by Seena B. Frost

• Discernment: Reading the Signs of Daily Life by Henri Nouwen

• Merton’s Prayer: Finding God’s Will

This is the Soul Collage that Steve did in the retreat with Marty.

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 23:13 - A Gaelic Blessing: Meditation by John Rutter

• Music Break at 39:50 - There will be Rest by Frank Ticheli - performed by Kantorei

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Episode 146 - Discernment: Finding Our Way, Part 1

“Discernment is the process of gaining clarity on finding direction for the next step of our journey.”

Show notes

Last year Steve and Gwen went through a period of repositioning: changes were on the horizon but any clarity about what to do next was clouded by the realization that they were not on the same page. They reached out to a trusted Spiritual Director for help and the result was what they called a “Discernment Retreat.”  They needed clarity. They needed discernment.

Today’s podcast is a discussion between Steve and the Spiritual Director they called on for help, Martie McMane. A retired minister, artist, and spiritual director, Martie used a collage process that helped Steve & Gwen in making those crucial, life decisions. Today they dive deep into the process.

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Martie McMane

Rev. Martie McMane, MA, M.Div, is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ and was the Senior Minister of First Congregational Church in Boulder from 2000-2016.  As a certified Enneagram teacher for 25 years, Martie has reached well over 1,000 people with her in-depth knowledge of the Enneagram and how its understanding can be transformative for our lives. In retirement, she enjoys creating pastels and mixed media, using it as a way to express the connection with the Divine as witnessed in nature and what it means to be human.

• Martie’s Website

Mentioned in the Podcast

• SoulCollage Evolving: An Intuitive Collage Process for Self-Discovery and Community by Seena B. Frost

• Discernment: Reading the Signs of Daily Life by Henri Nouwen

• Merton’s Prayer: Finding God’s Will

This is the Soul Collage that Steve did in the retreat with Marty.

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 33:22 & 36:32 - Waltz for the Broken Hearted Written and performed by Jeff Wahl.

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Episode 145 - Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Imagination

“I am simply humbled at this stage in my career, to have the privilege to tell Walter’s story and to help amplify his amazingly relevant voice. Getting to know Walter has been a healing and restorative experience for me as a former pastor and a professor deeply committed to social justice when so much of the church and society has forgotten what the biblical text says about God’s care for the marginalized.”

— Conrad L. Kanagy

Show notes

Steve’s chats with Conrad Kanagy, the author of coming soon book Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Imagination: A Theological Biography. (releases Oct 24, 2023) Steve and Conrad focus on the book and how it reveals the most complete portrait to date of this remarkable prophet, pastor, preacher, teacher, and friend.

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Conrad L. Kanagy

Conrad L. Kanagy is professor of sociology at Elizabethtown College, Pennsylvania. He holds an undergraduate degree from Wheaton College (Illinois) and a PhD from Penn State. He is the author of eight books and numerous scholarly articles. His primary area of expertise is American and global Christianity. He hosts the podcast A Church Dismantled--A Kingdom Restored.

• Books by Conrad

Mentioned in the Podcast

• Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Imagination: A Theological Biography (Releases Oct 24, 2023)

• Conrad’s Podcast A Church Dismantled--A Kingdom Restored.

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 33:00 - The Feast of St Augustine

• Music Break at 47:28 - Kyrie Eleison with Audrey Snyder
  

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Episode 144 - 'Kindavangelical' with guest Pete Briscoe

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“I came to the conclusion that I could not stay in that role and be healthy. So I chose to be a healthy person over a megachurch pastor, and it was an incredibly hard choice.”

— Pete Briscoe

Show notes

In today’s conversation, Steve talks with Pete Briscoe about why Pete no longer calls himself an “evangelical.”

You’ll hear Pete’s story, filled with pain and struggles, as he discovers more beautiful ways to live the Christian life. While you may not agree with his path, we think there’s something here to learn in his story.

Thank you for joining us in today’s conversation!

About Pete Briscoe

After leading Bent Tree Bible Fellowship church for nearly three decades and preaching for Telling the Truth ministry for more than a decade, God led Pete to a new season of life.

With his wife Libby, they sold their home, donated most of their stuff, and bought an RV. They drove west into the sunset, took a couple of months to catch their breath, and then started to work from the road.

Pete now coaches pastors and business owners/leaders in communications and self-care. He is also the host of the podcast Kindavangelical, a podcast for folks who have spent time in the evangelical culture but it isn’t working for them anymore.

Learn more about Pete on his website: www.petebriscoe.org

Mentioned in the Podcast

• Kindavangelical Podcast

• The Christian Journey

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 31:40 - Gratitude by Scott Lamlein.

• Music Break at 56:05 - Luminous Night of the Soul by Ola Gjeilo. Performed by Central Washington University Chamber Choir.
  

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Episode 143 - Scripture & the Spiritual Journey

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“I have learned to prize holy ignorance more highly than religious certainty and to seek companions who have arrived at the same place. We are a motley crew, distinguished not only by our inability to explain ourselves to those who are more certain of their beliefs than we are but in many cases by our distance from the centers of our faith communities as well. Like campers who have bonded over cook fires far from home, we remain grateful for the provisions that we have brought with us from those cupboards, but we also find them more delicious when we share them with one another under the star”

— Barbara Brown Taylor

Show notes

“Bible-believing religious people often miss the gospel. Just because you believe in the Bible doesn't mean you understand it. Over and over the tax collectors, prostitutes, and the amoral come to Jesus, while the religious miss who he is.”

These are the words of well known and loved Tim Keller. Steve and Brandon Cook explore how our view and opinions about the Bible ought to grow and deepen as we grow and deepen! 

About Brandon Cook

Brandon is a writer, trainer, and business/personal coach. 

Originally from Alabama, he attended Wheaton College (IL) and studied in Jerusalem, Israel before graduating from Brandeis University near Boston. He also received a Master’s degree in ancient Judaism from Oxford University in the UK.

After graduate school, he moved to Long Beach, CA and had an incredibly rich and transformative experience working as a pastor, coach, & trainer. Brandon and his wife Rebecca have three children and now live in Brevard, North Carolina. 

• Brandon's Website

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 00:45 - Native Tongue by David Wilcox (from Into the Mystery, 2003) -Lyrics

• Music Break at 44:32 - Ancient Words by Michael W. Smith (from Worship Again, 2002) - Lyrics
  

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Steve's List for Summer 2023: Episode 113 - Finding Jesus’ Ways to Have Jesus’ Life

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Note From Steve: This conversation for me was like having a trusted friend do the deep excavation of my heart. There is nothing like a good question to allow one to feel safe and begin to open up. Steve Macchia and I had a lovely conversation which I commend to you this summer. There's a lot in this wide ranging conversation. I hope you'll enjoy!

SHOW NOTES

I (Steve) recently sat down with Steve Macchia of Leadership Transformations to have an honest conversation and assess where we are today in light of all that has been happening.

I was able to reflect backwards and think forward through Steve Macchia’s thoughtful questions. I felt liberty to just open my heart; this podcast is the result. I hope you’ll find the space to listen. 

We want to thank Steve Macchia and Leadership Transformations, Inc (LTI) for allowing us to edit and air this episode (Season 15, Episode 3).

• The Discerning Leader Podcast

Mentioned in podcast

• The Jesus Life by Stephen W. Smith

• SOLO: Creating Space with God by Stephen W. Smith and Peter Ivey

• Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard

• The State of my Soul

• Psalm 103

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• First Music Break at 17:24: Till That Blessed Day by JOYSPRING. From the Album Quiet My Soul. With Permission from Epidemic Sound.
  

• Second Music Break at 49:31: Abide with Me (Arr. Cleobury) - Performed by Choir of King's College, Cambridge.
  
  

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Steve's List for Summer 2023: Episode 2 - What is Soul Care?

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NOTE FROM STEVE: I love this particular podcast because it is foundational to understanding the care of the soul. In this podcast, I explain what the soul is and how we can participate in the caring for our soul.   As I’ve said , this message is needed because the message of soul care gets lost in our busyness and all the issues of life hitting us day by day! 

I hope you’ll listen and pass this along to a few friends you think could really benefit by listening to it! 

Summer blessings!

Steve

SHOW NOTES

Join co-hosts Steve Smith and Joe Chambers as they give more definition to what soul care is and how it relates to icebergs and the Brooklyn Bridge! Steve Smith shows us the stress of living divided lives and lays out the importance of caring for all aspects of the human experience: physical, emotional, relational, vocational, and spiritual. Plus enjoy an interview with Joe Walters, head of the Soul Care Institute and learn how you can take part in a 2-year journey to better soul health.

LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE PODCAST

• Understanding the Soul with Icebergs (View and Download)

• Article: Five Reasons Soul Care Matters by Stephen W. Smith: (View and Download)

• Poem: For One Who Is Exhausted by John O’Donohue. This poem is available in his book To Bless The Space Between Us: A Book of Blessings.

  • Learn more about John O’Donohue at www.johnodonohue.com

BOOKS RECOMMENDED

• The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.

• Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander by Thomas Merton

• Building Below the Waterline: Shoring Up the Foundations of Leadership by Gordon MacDonald

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Steve's List for Summer 2023: Nature and the Care of the Soul with Belden Lane, Part 2

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FROM STEVE: I consider Belden Lane to Be among the most important voices in the 21st century. For the next two weeks listen deeply to his wisdom and insight. I relish in his books and find him to be among the most authentic voices I've ever heard!

Special Guest Belden C. Lane

Belden and his dog Joey

Belden C. Lane is a Presbyterian theologian who teaches on a Jesuit faculty at Saint Louis University. His interests include the relationship between geography and faith, wilderness backpacking in the Ozarks, the magic of storytelling, desert spirituality, exposing students to urban poverty through the Catholic Worker community, and the poetry of Rumi. He also works with men, helping to lead initiation rites through Richard Rohr's program for Men as Learners and Elders in Albuquerque.

He lives with his wife Patricia, a spiritual director and retired school teacher, in Saint Louis. Drawn to sacred places around the world, his travels have involved camping in Egypt, Ireland and the Virgin Islands; hiking in Greece, Hawaii, and Australia; and study in England, Israel and Mexico. For six years I served in the pastorate, from a village parish in western New York State to the historic First Presbyterian Church of Philadelphia. Some time ago he found himself delightfully introduced as a Presbyterian minister teaching at a Roman Catholic university telling Jewish stories at the Vedanta Society.

• More about Belden

Belden’s Books:

• The Solace of Fierce Landscapes: Exploring Desert and Mountain Spirituality

• Ravished by Beauty: The Surprising Legacy of Reformed Spirituality

• Backpacking with the Saints: Wilderness Hiking as Spiritual Practice

• The Great Conversation: Nature and the Care of the Soul

Mentioned in podcast

• Apophatic and Cataphatic Tradition

• Walter Brueggemann on Psalms of Disorientation

• Richard Rohr’s Center for Action and Contemplation

• Illuman - Richard Rohr Ministry for Men

• Paula D’Arcy - Red Bird Foundation

• Paula D’Arcy’s book The Gift of the Red Bird

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Steve's List for Summer 2023: Nature and the Care of the Soul with Belden Lane, Part 1

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FROM STEVE: I consider Belden Lane to Be among the most important voices in the 21st century. For the next two weeks listen deeply to his wisdom and insight. I relish in his books and find him to be among the most authentic voices I've ever heard!

Special Guest Belden C. Lane

Belden and his dog Joey

Belden C. Lane is a Presbyterian theologian who teaches on a Jesuit faculty at Saint Louis University. His interests include the relationship between geography and faith, wilderness backpacking in the Ozarks, the magic of storytelling, desert spirituality, exposing students to urban poverty through the Catholic Worker community, and the poetry of Rumi. He also works with men, helping to lead initiation rites through Richard Rohr's program for Men as Learners and Elders in Albuquerque.

He lives with his wife Patricia, a spiritual director and retired school teacher, in Saint Louis. Drawn to sacred places around the world, his travels have involved camping in Egypt, Ireland and the Virgin Islands; hiking in Greece, Hawaii, and Australia; and study in England, Israel and Mexico. For six years I served in the pastorate, from a village parish in western New York State to the historic First Presbyterian Church of Philadelphia. Some time ago he found himself delightfully introduced as a Presbyterian minister teaching at a Roman Catholic university telling Jewish stories at the Vedanta Society.

More about Belden

Belden’s Books:

• The Solace of Fierce Landscapes: Exploring Desert and Mountain Spirituality

• Ravished by Beauty: The Surprising Legacy of Reformed Spirituality

• Backpacking with the Saints: Wilderness Hiking as Spiritual Practice

• The Great Conversation: Nature and the Care of the Soul

Mentioned in podcast

• Richard Rohr quote “from disorder to reorder to new order” - from his book The Wisdom Pattern: Order, Disorder, Reorder.

• Thomas Berry book on the Great Conversation - Befriending the Earth: A Theology of Reconciliation Between Humans and the Earth

• SNEAK PEAK: 30 Days with the Potter Devotional reading - Foundational Love of God (Text)

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Steve's List for Summer 2023: Episodes 122 & 123 - Seeking God with Trevor Hudson, Part 1 & 2

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NOTE FROM STEVE:

We all need spiritual diodes to help us find the way. I consider Trevor to be a Spiritual Master. In todays world, I am suspicious of people who are not credible-- who are too young, too inexperienced and too unbroken. The voices I trust and listen to are seasoned women and men who know the landscape of the inner journey. Trevor Hudson is one voice I trust and respect. His two podcasts are stellar and should be listened to many times. Repetition is the mother of all learning!

Steve

About Our Guest

Trevor Hudson has been part of the Methodist movement for over 40 years. Serving primarily around Johannesburg, he is deeply committed to the work of spiritual formation within local congregational contexts. A significant part of his weekly work presently consists of leading people through the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius and offering spiritual direction. Besides his local commitments, Trevor travels widely, preaching and teaching. He lectures at Fuller Seminary, the Renovaré Institute, the Dallas Willard Center for Christian Spiritual Formation, and the Jesuit Institute in South Africa. He is the author of 22 books including Discovering Your Spiritual Identity (IVP) and Beyond Loneliness (Upper Room). His most recent book is Seeking God-Finding Another Kind of Life with St. Ignatius and Dallas Willard.

Resources Mentioned in Podcasts

• Episode 10: Discernment: The Journey to Discover God’s Will

• Episode 12: Cultivating Daily Shalom: Using the Daily Examen

• Dallas Willard

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

PART 1

• Music Break at 22:50: Mellow Celtic Style Acoustic Duet - Envato Elements

• Music Break at 37:49: Beautiful Choir Requiem – Blue Sky Audio

  PART 2

• Music Break at 16:27: Gregorian Chant - Artist unknown

• Music Break at 32:08: Beautiful Choir Requiem – Blue Sky Audio
  
  

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Steve's List for Summer 2023: Episode 118 - Wearing the Yoke

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Steve's Podcast List for Summer 2023

If there is one podcast that defines my life message and legacy, surely it is this one. This has the key to unlock all the years of trying and performance to get it right. I explore why reading the “red letters of Jesus “ is so important and some thoughts to inspire us upward and onward!

Could you PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW AND THEN SHARE THIS WITH FIVE OF YOUR FRIENDS WHO NEED IT? We would appreciate it!

Mentioned in podcast

• SOLO: Creating Space with God by Stephen W. Smith and Peter M. Ivey

• The Jesus Life by Stephen W. Smith

• Pray as you Go - APP for Lectio Divina

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 33:36 My Yoke Is Easy by John Michael Talbot

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Episode 142 - Letting Go

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“The trapeze artist free falls into the hands of trust and love. Jesus let go, while on the cross and surrendered his life into good hands of his Father.”

— Henri Nouwen

Show notes

It’s hard work to let go. Ask Moses, Peter, Paul, Mary the mother of Jesus, or really—any character in the Scriptures. Like it or not, letting go is one of the big scholastic courses you sign up for in being born.

Today we explore Letting Go—it all comes together in our May Issue of our new resource, the Soul Care Ezine. Steve talks about how the whole process of Letting Go is such an important part of your own soul journey. 

**This episode is the final one for this season. We will be taking a break this summer, but will be back in the Fall with more podcasts!

Mentioned in Podcast

• Read Issue 2 of the Soul Care Ezine on Letting Go

• Poem read by Steve - The Welcome Prayer by Father Thomas Keating

• Subscribe to the Soul Care Ezine

• Pay it Forward - Donate to the Soul Care Ezine

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 38:46 - Cathedral of the Pines by Tim Janis · from Flowers in October

• Music Break at 45:25 - I Won’t Break by Elyssa Smith
  

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Episode 141 - The Language of the Soul with Jeff Crosby

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“We carry these desires, our deepest longings, with us. It’s part of what it means to be human, and they are drivers in our lives whether or not we acknowledge them.”

— Jeff Crosby

Show notes

Today’s guest is Jeff Crosby, the author of the new book (releases May 23, 2023) Language of the Soul. For over fifteen years, Jeff has been searching for a language of the soul--a way to articulate our deepest longings. Through the years he gathered clues from within global music styles, from different cultures, from his own Christian tradition and its sacred texts--and from deep within himself.

Jeff explores the ways in which God meets us in our deepest longings of the heart – our longing for home, friendship, forgiveness, spiritual transformation, and more – not by satisfying our every desire but by granting us what we genuinely need.

Special Guest jeff crosby

Jeff Crosby is the president and CEO of ECPA, the trade association of Christian publishing, and has spent nearly four decades working in the world of words as a bookseller, publisher, and author. His writing has appeared in numerous magazines and journals including CRUX, Conversations Journal, Books & Culture, Urban Faith, and Living Lutheran. He is the editor and compiler of "Days of Grace Through the Year" (a collection of writings by Lewis B. Smedes) and the author of The Language of the Soul, which is released May 23, 2023.

Crosby earned an undergraduate degree in journalism and a master's degree in leadership development, where his area of special emphasis was creating mentoring cultures in organizations.  He has been married to Cindy Crosby, a writer, educator, and naturalist, for more than 40 years, and has two grown children and six grandchildren. 

You can find more at JeffreyCrosby.net.

Mentioned in Podcast

• The Language of the Soul: Meeting God in the Longings of our Heart by Jeff Crosby

• Jeff’s Website

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 52:25 - Always With Me (Song for Anxiety) - IAMSON
  
  

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Episode 140 - Soul care in a Warming World with Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

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“Be responsible, serve, and protect.”

— Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

Show notes

Have you ever looked at the effects of climate change and the apathy of so many around you and wondered, "What are we missing here?"

Today’s guest Kyle Meyaard-Schaap understands this feeling from personal experience. He is the author of the recently released book, Following Jesus in a Warming World, a field guide for Christian climate action. Steve and Kyle discuss the book and how climate change should not be grounded in a sense of guilt or drudgery, but in the joy of caring for creation.

Thank you for joining us today!

Special Guest Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

Kyle is vice-president of the Evangelical Environmental Network. Previously, he was the national organizer and spokesperson for Young Evangelicals for Climate Action, and he has been featured in news outlets such as CNN, PBS, NPR, NBC News, and U.S. News & World Report. He lives in Grand Rapids, Michigan, with his wife and two children.

Kyle’s Website (Order his new book, read more of his bio, and contact him directly) https://kylemeyaardschaap.com/

Mentioned in Podcast

• Climate Vigil Songs from The Porter’s Gate

• Kyle’s Website

• Genesis 1 (MSG)

• Download Beauty and Nature Reader for $1

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 58:47 - My Father's World by Jadon Lavik · from Roots Run Deep
  
  
  

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Episode 139 - A Sense of Home

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““There is no house like the house of belonging.” ”

— David Whyte

Show notes

Every soul needs to belong. We look for our sense of belonging in our families, tribes, nations, and friendships

Today we explore the place of our home—that place where you actually live and the role and influences that this place has on our spiritual lives.

​It all comes together in our new resource, the Soul Care Ezine. Steve shares why we decided to create the Ezine, what will be included in each issue, and how it can be a part of your own soul journey. 

Mentioned in Podcast

• Read Issue 1 of the Soul Care Ezine

• The House of Belonging by David Whyte

• Subscribe to the Soul Care Ezine

• Pay it Forward - Donate to the Soul Care Ezine

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 26:33 - Resurrexi by Juliano Ravanello · from Music of Silence: Gregorian Chants
  

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Episode 138 - Poetry: The Language of the Soul, Part 2

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We are continuing the conversation today with Steve and Roger Housden. It was Roger who opened the portal for Steve to get and understand poetry. Roger is a prolific writer, poet, speaker and teacher and speaks with a grace and appreciation of self-discovery and exploration . Thank you for joining us today!

Our Special Guest - Roger Housden

Roger Housden is an author and has been featured many times in The Oprah Magazine, The New York Times, and the Los Angeles Times. His first book was published in the U.K. in 1990, and as of 2018, he has published twenty six books, including four travel books, a novella, Chasing Love and Revelation, and the best-selling Ten Poems series, which began in 2001 with Ten Poems to Change Your Life and ended with the publication in 2018 of Ten Poems  for Difficult Times. A native of England, he lives in Marin County, California, and teaches around the world.

• Roger’s Website

• Roger’s Books

Mentioned in Podcast

Come Before Winter Retreat

A Brief for the Defense by Jack Gilbert

Sorrow everywhere. Slaughter everywhere. If babies
are not starving someplace, they are starving
somewhere else. With flies in their nostrils.
But we enjoy our lives because that’s what God wants.
Otherwise the mornings before summer dawn would not
be made so fine. The Bengal tiger would not
be fashioned so miraculously well. The poor women
at the fountain are laughing together between
the suffering they have known and the awfulness
in their future, smiling and laughing while somebody
in the village is very sick. There is laughter
every day in the terrible streets of Calcutta,
and the women laugh in the cages of Bombay.
If we deny our happiness, resist our satisfaction,
we lessen the importance of their deprivation.
We must risk delight. We can do without pleasure,
but not delight. Not enjoyment. We must have
the stubbornness to accept our gladness in the ruthless
furnace of this world. To make injustice the only
measure of our attention is to praise the Devil.
If the locomotive of the Lord runs us down,
we should give thanks that the end had magnitude.
We must admit there will be music despite everything.
We stand at the prow again of a small ship
anchored late at night in the tiny port
looking over to the sleeping island: the waterfront
is three shuttered cafés and one naked light burning.
To hear the faint sound of oars in the silence as a rowboat
comes slowly out and then goes back is truly worth
all the years of sorrow that are to come.

————-

From Collected Poems by Jack Gilbert. Copyright © 2012.

Unholy Sonnet 11 by Mark Jarman

Half asleep in prayer I said the right thing

And felt a sudden pleasure come into

The room or my own body. In the dark,

Charged with a change of atmosphere, at first

I couldn’t tell my body from the room.

And I was wide awake, full of this feeling,

Alert as though I’d heard a doorknob twist,

A drawer pulled, and instead of terror knew

The intrusion of an overwhelming joy.

I had said thanks and this was the response.

But how I said it or what I said it for

I still cannot recall and I have tried

All sorts of ways all hours of the night.

Once was enough to be dissatisfied.

——————

From Questions for Ecclesiastes by Mark Jarman. Copyright © 1997.

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 47:35 - Armenian Tradition: Surb (Holy, Holy, Holy) - Performed by Harpa Dei.
  

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Episode 137 - Poetry: The Language of the Soul, Part 1

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Todays podcast has very special meaning for Steve. It was Roger who opened the portal for Steve to get and understand poetry. He’s a prolific writer and poet and the podcast became a soul enriching experience. We pray you are enriched as well!

Our Special Guest - Roger Housden

Roger Housden is an author and has been featured many times in The Oprah Magazine, The New York Times, and the Los Angeles Times. His first book was published in the U.K. in 1990, and as of 2018, he has published twenty six books, including four travel books, a novella, Chasing Love and Revelation, and the best-selling Ten Poems series, which began in 2001 with Ten Poems to Change Your Life and ended with the publication in 2018 of Ten Poems  for Difficult Times. A native of England, he lives in Marin County, California, and teaches around the world.

• Roger’s Website

• Roger’s Books

MUSIC USED IN PODCAST

• Music Break at 38:13 - Minha Alma tem Sede de Deus (My soul thirsts for God) - with Juliano Ravanello.

  LYRICS (in English)

  My soul thirsts for God

  And longs for the living God

  Pilgrim and happy walking

  To the house of God

  Amid shouts, praise and joy

  Of the jubilant multitude

  Send your light your truth

  They will be my guide

  Lead me to your holy mountain

  To your dwelling place

  Then I will go to the altars of the Lord

  God of my joy

  I will sing Your praise with the sound of the harp

  My Lord and my God

  When I shall have the joy of seeing

  The face of God.

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